BBC interactive channels on Astra 2 ?

[GAH]

Hi,

Can anyone suggest a way to view the BBC interactive channels through the BBCi portal channel? If you have an official Sky receiver, you can view these channels by pressing the red button on the remote, which is similar to the way the Premiere Sports portal channels work (i.e. with the yellow button). Some of these free to air channels can be found here:

<transponder id="07dd" onid="0002" frequency="11953500" inversion="2" symbol_rate="27500000" fec_inner="2" polarization="0">
<channel service_id="1a31" name="BBC PARL&apos;MNT" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="1a7c" name="T4 STRM-0" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="1a7d" name="T4 STRM-1" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="1af6" name="6705" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="270b" name="6780" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="270c" name="6781" service_type="01"/>
</transponder

and here:

<transponder id="07f6" onid="0002" frequency="12441000" inversion="2" symbol_rate="27500000" fec_inner="2" polarization="1">
<channel service_id="1ac4" name="BBC R2" service_type="02"/>
<channel service_id="1ac6" name="BBC R4 FM" service_type="02"/>
<channel service_id="1aea" name="DEV-STRM-0" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="1aeb" name="DEV-STRM-1" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="1aec" name="DEV-STRM-2" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="1aed" name="DEV-STRM-3" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="1aee" name="DEV-STRM-4" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="1aef" name="DEV-STRM-5" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="1af0" name="DEV-STRM-6" service_type="01"/>


T4 STRM-0 and 1 are currently broacasting a panel of 6 channels each, along with 6 different soundtracks, one for each channel.

Is there any way to view them interactively ?

Regards,
GAH

[PT-1]

Hi,

I have moved this from the ENGLISH Section as I am also interested in this and otherwise not as many people might see this.

Anyone got any ideas (Nirvana) ?

PT-1

[smeghead]

My own scan shows this:
an additional 7 channels service type 82
These are the actual interactive streams that are normally viewed on a sky digital receiver by using the red button.Changing the service type to 01 allows them to be viewable as normal FTA channels.However as GAH has stated it would be interesting to find a way of viewing them in a genuinely interactive manner such as the yellow key used on Premiere channels.



<transponder id="07f6" onid="0002" frequency="12441000" inversion="2" symbol_rate="27500000" fec_inner="2" polarization="1">
<channel service_id="1ac4" name="BBC R2" service_type="02" />
<channel service_id="1ac6" name="BBC R4 FM" service_type="02" />
<channel service_id="1ae0" name="STREAM-0" service_type="82" />
<channel service_id="1ae1" name="STREAM-1" service_type="82" />
<channel service_id="1ae2" name="STREAM-2" service_type="82" />
<channel service_id="1ae3" name="STREAM-3" service_type="82" />
<channel service_id="1ae4" name="STREAM-4" service_type="82" />
<channel service_id="1ae5" name="STREAM-5" service_type="82" />
<channel service_id="1ae6" name="STREAM-6" service_type="82" />
<channel service_id="1aea" name="DEV-STRM-0" service_type="01" />
<channel service_id="1aeb" name="DEV-STRM-1" service_type="01" />
<channel service_id="1aec" name="DEV-STRM-2" service_type="01" />
<channel service_id="1aed" name="DEV-STRM-3" service_type="01" />
<channel service_id="1aee" name="DEV-STRM-4" service_type="01" />
<channel service_id="1aef" name="DEV-STRM-5" service_type="01" />
<channel service_id="1af0" name="DEV-STRM-6" service_type="01" />
</transponder>


A full scan of 28E reveals doxens of type 82 channels,changing these to type 01 reveals lots of "hidden" streams.

[PT-1]

Does anybody know what service type 82 actually is ..?

[Nico 77]

@PT-1
Sind service_type=82 englische Pay-Tv TV Sender?
Welche services_types sind denn im englischen noch alles Tv Sender?

Wenn ja darf dbox diese nicht als Tv deklarieren da dies zu Lizensrechtlichen Problemen kommen kann.
Die dbox ist ja nicht zertifiziert um diese Sender zu empfangen.
So in der Art wurde mir das im Chat mal erläutert.

Zum Glück darf ja jeder sein eigenes Image basteln.

[smeghead]

service_type=82 is in no way connected to Pay-Tv.
These are free BBC channels which can be received on any FTA receiver.

[Nirvana]

Service type 82 is defined by service operator.
That means that it is out of scope of the public DVB standards.
So Neutrino will not be able to handle this correctly unless somebody brings the developer's manual for opentv or whatever private data specifier the service id belongs to.

[PT-1]

BBC is like our ARD or ZDF and the Stations are FTA

Thanks to the g.enius of the UK TV Provider do they not oly Broadcast via a PayTV Providers Sat they also use PrivateEPG that only leaves the License Fee Paying Customer to buy the Receivers from the PayTV Provider... Other people might call it a monopoly as I am unaware of any other manufaturer of Sat Decoders that would enable me a 100% functionality...

If anyone is interested I could always give you guys Telnet Access to my Box

[PT-1]

OK,
Results 09.11.2006 London UK Scan and SectionsD ON

http://home.arcor.de/pt-1/Services/0911 ... rvices.xml

Above are multiple results with Service Type 82 changed into 01 in the youngest file.

Channels:

TTG41 = ITV
ITVi Stream 3 Wheel of fortune still
G41 same as above
Film4+1 Boys on the Side OPEN
Film4 Boys on the Side OPEN
FF Test 1 same as above
ETV (same as BBC 4)
BBC TES3 Hairdresser reality
ETV1 = BBC1
ETV2 = BBC1
ETV6 = BBC1
G49= ITV Wales
DCT2 (t51) = (Channel not....)
ttg53 = ITV1
G53 = ITV Sport
stv = no clue (something scottish)
G54 = ITV3
Movies4Men 2 = The Informant
T4 STRM-0 = BBC Stream Mosaik with 6 Channels & 6 different sounds
T4 STRM-1 = BBC Stream Mosaik with 6 Channels & 6 different sounds
T4 STRM-3 = Re-Run of the lotterie
T4 STRM-4 = No picture & no Sound
CNG1SA = Music
GS22 = Music
Portal Video 3 = Sky Multiroom Advert
GS20 = Music
Portal Video 1 = Sky HD Advert
CNG2SA = Music
CNG3SA = Music
GS14 = Music
GMS1# = Music
Portal Video = BT HomeHub Advert
Portal Video2 = ky Broadband Advert
FRAN = Wierd Advert
CNG4 = No Picture but Music
CMOG = No Picture but Music
GMS3 = No Picture but Music
ROUL = No Picture but Music 3x Choices Piano Bar
HILO = No Picture but Music
GMS5 = No Picture but Music
GMS7 = No Picture but Music
WPC1 = No Picture but Music
GMS6 = No Picture but Music
GS25 = No Picture but Music 2x Audio
GS15 = No Picture but Music
GMS8 = No Picture but Music
FDRE = Football Preview 2x Audio
GS13 = No Picture but Music
GS24 = No Picture but Music
GS19 = No Picture but Music
GMS4 = No Picture but Music
GMS2 = No Picture but Music Disney Channel Highschool Musical
GS10 = No Picture but Music 2x Audio
GS11 = No Picture but Music Cowboy Music
WWLH = No Picture but Music
GS21 = No Picture but Music
VG10 (Channel not ....)
VG11 2 different Sounds no Picture (a bit like on a ship)
VG12 (Channel not ....)
VG13 (Channel not ....)
VGM1 Nothing
VGM2 No Picture one sound only (like a bar)
VGM3 Nothing
VGM4 No Picture Flute Sounds
VGM5 No Picture Piano Bar sound
VGM6 No Picture Electronic weird sound
VGM7 No Picture Piano Bar sound
VGM8 Elvis ...? 2 Different Audios with Elvis loops ...
VGM9 No Picture Scary sound in Background 3 Audio Tracks
VGVP (Channel not ....)
WAP44 Musik
WAPB Musik as above
WAPT Musik as above
WDOA nothing
WIAD (Channel not ....)
WIMD4 Trailer for Fifa PC Game
WML2 Trailer for Seaworld
WML3 Trailer for Cars
WML4 No Picture Musik only (4 different choices@ABC) C mentiones the blue Button to YELL
WMLH No Picture Musil only
WPC1 No Picture Musil only
WV51 (Channel not ....)

Have fun and please Update..

Interesting is that with the latest DietmarW from 07.11.06 You get Please insert Card on the Channels you would expect.

On quite a few you get channel not available

[Muttersöhnchen]

@PT-1
Wenn ja darf dbox diese nicht als Tv deklarieren da dies zu Lizensrechtlichen Problemen kommen kann.

*LOL*
Ich darf die nicht mal dann schauen, wenn die fta senden ?
*LOL*

[PT-1]

Und warum ..?

Diese Programme sind ja nicht verschluesselt ...

ARD & ZDF senden ja auch nicht ServiceType 82 ...

[PT-1]

So,

und nun noch als CSV
http://www.pt-1.net/Services/UKTV28.2.csv
und als HTML
http://www.pt-1.net/Services/UKTV28.2.html

Und der neueste Scan von sehr frueh heute morgen wieder mit SectionsD scan an.

Momentan sind es ca. 3000 Services (ohne Radio) auf Astra 19.2 Eutelsat 13 und Astra 28.2

http://www.pt-1.net/Services/services_final.xml
http://www.pt-1.netServices/bouquets_final.xml

[PT-1]

Wie man an dem Datum der vorherigen Post's sehen kann hatte ich heute mal wieder Zeit zum Spielen.

Mit dem JtG Image vom 10.04.2007 was die letzten Sectionsd Sachen enhaelt ist es ja jetzt moeglich das generieren von extra Bouquets auf dem 28.2 zu unterbinden.

Wenn ich jetzt z.B. auf BBC1 schalte dann bekomme ich das folgende im Telnet log:

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~ > sectionsd -d
$Id: sectionsd.cpp,v 1.237 2007/03/29 15:43:32 mws Exp $
[sectionsd] Caching max 5000 events
[sectionsd] Caching 14 days
[sectionsd] Events are old 60min after their end time
/var/tuxbox/config/zapit/epgfilter.xml: No such file or directory
Reading Bouquet Filters
Add Bouquet Filter for bouquet_id="1001"
Add Bouquet Filter for bouquet_id="1002"
Add Bouquet Filter for bouquet_id="1003"
Add Bouquet Filter for bouquet_id="1004"
Add Bouquet Filter for bouquet_id="1005"
Add Bouquet Filter for bouquet_id="1006"
Add Bouquet Filter for bouquet_id="1007"
Add Bouquet Filter for bouquet_id="1008"
Add Bouquet Filter for bouquet_id="1009"
Add Bouquet Filter for bouquet_id="100a"
Add Bouquet Filter for bouquet_id="100b"
Add Bouquet Filter for bouquet_id="100c"
Add Bouquet Filter for bouquet_id="100d"
Add Bouquet Filter for bouquet_id="100e"
[timeThread] pid 280 start
[eitThread] pid 281 start
[pptThread] pid 282 start
[nitThread] pid 283 start
[sdtThread] pid 284 start
housekeeping-thread started.
Connection from UDS
version: 5, cmd: 24, numbytes: 1
data length: 16
commandserviceChanged
[sectionsd] commandserviceChanged: Service changed to      7fd0002189e
--> '[sectionsd] commandserviceChanged: before messaging lock' 117680691
924
[sectionsd] commandserviceChanged: current service-descriptor not loaded
--> '[sectionsd] commandserviceChanged: before wakeup' 2.980000
--> 'changeDMX: before pthread_mutex_lock(&start_stop_mutex)' 0.645000
--> 'changeDMX: after pthread_mutex_lock(&start_stop_mutex)' 0.657000
changeDMX [12]-> current/next (0x4e)
--> 'after DMX_SET_FILTER' 7.934000
--> '[sectionsd] commandserviceChanged: after doWakeup' 1.667000
Connection from UDS
version: 5, cmd: 16, numbytes: 1
data length: 8
commandCurrentNextInfoChannelID
[sectionsd] Request of current/next information for      7fd0002189e
Connection from UDS
version: 5, cmd: 24, numbytes: 1
data length: 16
commandserviceChanged
[sectionsd] commandserviceChanged: Service changed to      7fd0002189e
--> '[sectionsd] commandserviceChanged: before messaging lock' 135.82800
--> '[sectionsd] commandserviceChanged: before wakeup' 1.077000
[sectionsd] commandserviceChanged: ignoring wakeup request...
--> '[sectionsd] commandserviceChanged: after doWakeup' 0.950000
Connection from UDS
version: 5, cmd: 16, numbytes: 1
data length: 8
commandCurrentNextInfoChannelID
[sectionsd] Request of current/next information for      7fd0002189e
Connection from UDS
version: 5, cmd: 29, numbytes: 1
data length: 2
commandSetPrivatePid
Connection from UDS
version: 5, cmd: 16, numbytes: 1
data length: 8
commandCurrentNextInfoChannelID
[sectionsd] Request of current/next information for      7fd0002189e
Connection from UDS
version: 5, cmd: 16, numbytes: 1
data length: 8
commandCurrentNextInfoChannelID
[sectionsd] Request of current/next information for      7fd0002189e
Connection from UDS
version: 5, cmd: 16, numbytes: 1
data length: 8
commandCurrentNextInfoChannelID
[sectionsd] Request of current/next information for      7fd0002189e
[timeThread] - 17.04.2007 11:48:45, tim: Tue Apr 17 11:48:45 2007
dmxPPT: no valid pid 0
dmxNIT: going to sleep...
dmxSDT: going to sleep...
[timeThread] Time set via DVB, going to sleep for 1800 seconds.
[eitThread] got all packages for table_id 0x4e
[eitThread] got new C/N EPG (table_id 0x4e, ext_hi=18, ext_lo=9e, sn=0,
New Filterindex: 1 (ges. 3)
--> 'changeDMX: before pthread_mutex_lock(&start_stop_mutex)' 6599.63800
--> 'changeDMX: after pthread_mutex_lock(&start_stop_mutex)' 1.608000
changeDMX [12]-> scheduled (0x50)
--> 'after DMX_SET_FILTER' 5.724000
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 0
[pptThread] going to sleep...
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 1
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 2
[eitThread] dmxEIT restarted, cache NOT decreased (dt=8)
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 0
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 1
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 2
[eitThread] dmxEIT restarted
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 0
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 1
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 2
[eitThread] dmxEIT restarted
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 0
Connection from UDS
version: 5, cmd: 24, numbytes: 1
data length: 16
commandserviceChanged
[sectionsd] commandserviceChanged: Service changed to      7fd0002189d
--> '[sectionsd] commandserviceChanged: before messaging lock' 5286.6760
[sectionsd] commandserviceChanged: current service-descriptor not loaded
--> '[sectionsd] commandserviceChanged: before wakeup' 1.193000
--> 'changeDMX: before pthread_mutex_lock(&start_stop_mutex)' 0.643000
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 1
--> 'changeDMX: after pthread_mutex_lock(&start_stop_mutex)' 314.978000
changeDMX [12]-> current/next (0x4e)
--> 'after DMX_SET_FILTER' 3.993000
--> '[sectionsd] commandserviceChanged: after doWakeup' 0.736000
Connection from UDS
version: 5, cmd: 16, numbytes: 1
data length: 8
commandCurrentNextInfoChannelID
[sectionsd] Request of current/next information for      7fd0002189d
[sectionsd] current EPG found.
[sectionsd] next EPG found.
Connection from UDS
version: 5, cmd: 29, numbytes: 1
data length: 2
commandSetPrivatePid
Connection from UDS
version: 5, cmd: 19, numbytes: 1
data length: 8
commandComponentTagsUniqueKey
Request of ComponentTags for 0x7fd0002189d47ab
ComponentTags found.
components.size 13
 Video - BBC ONE
 Audio - BBC ONE
 Audio - BBC ONE Narrative
 DVB Subtitles - BBC ONE
 Teletext - BBC ONE
 ETV 2
 ETV 3
 ETV 4
 ETV 5
 Live Trigger - BBC ONE
 ETV 14
 ETV 15
 ETV 16
[eitThread] got all packages for table_id 0x4e
[eitThread] got new C/N EPG (table_id 0x4e, ext_hi=18, ext_lo=9d, sn=0,
New Filterindex: 1 (ges. 3)
--> 'changeDMX: before pthread_mutex_lock(&start_stop_mutex)' 1561.05100
--> 'changeDMX: after pthread_mutex_lock(&start_stop_mutex)' 1.681000
changeDMX [12]-> scheduled (0x50)
--> 'after DMX_SET_FILTER' 7.351000
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 0
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 1
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 2
[eitThread] dmxEIT restarted, cache NOT decreased (dt=4)
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 0
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 1
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 2
[eitThread] dmxEIT restarted
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 0
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 1
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 2
[eitThread] dmxEIT restarted
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 0
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 1
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 2
[eitThread] dmxEIT restarted
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 0
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 1
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 2
[eitThread] dmxEIT restarted
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 0
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 1
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 2
[eitThread] dmxEIT restarted
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 0
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 1
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 2
[eitThread] dmxEIT restarted
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 0
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 1
dmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 2
[eitThread] dmxEIT restarted
^Xdmx.read timeout - filter: 50 - timeout# 0

Verstehe ich es dann richtig das z.B.:

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 ETV 2
 ETV 3
 ETV 4
 ETV 5
 ETV 14
 ETV 15
 ETV 16

Diese ETV Kanaele dann wie z.B. die Premiere gelbe Taste Subkanaele sind ?

Komisch ist das ich mit meinem JtG gestern gescannt:

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	<sat name="Astra 28.2E" position="0282" diseqc="2">
		<transponder id="07f9" onid="0002" frequency="10714250" inversion="2" symbol_rate="22000000" fec_inner="5" polarization="0">
			<channel service_id="27bc" name="ITV2+1" service_type="01"/>
			<channel service_id="27bf" name="ITV1 Central SW" service_type="01"/>
			<channel service_id="27c4" name="ITV1 Anglia S" service_type="01"/>
			<channel service_id="27c5" name="ITV1 Anglia W" service_type="01"/>
			<channel service_id="27cd" name="TTG41" service_type="01"/>
			<channel service_id="27ce" name="ITV1 TT N" service_type="01"/>
			<channel service_id="27cf" name="ITV1 TT S" service_type="01"/>
			<channel service_id="27d7" name="G41" service_type="01"/>
		</transponder>

und mit einem DietmarW (letztes Jahr)

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		<transponder id="07f9" onid="0002" frequency="10714250" inversion="2" symbol_rate="22000000" fec_inner="5" polarization="0">
			<channel service_id="27ba" name="ITV Play" service_type="01"/>
			<channel service_id="27bf" name="ITV1 Central SW" service_type="01"/>
			<channel service_id="27c4" name="ITV1 Anglia S" service_type="01"/>
			<channel service_id="27c5" name="ITV1 Anglia W" service_type="01"/>
			<channel service_id="27cd" name="TTG41" service_type="01"/>
			<channel service_id="27ce" name="ITV1 TT N" service_type="01"/>
			<channel service_id="27cf" name="ITV1 TT S" service_type="01"/>
			<channel service_id="27d3" name="ITVi Stream 3" service_type="82"/>
			<channel service_id="27d7" name="G41" service_type="01"/>
		</transponder>

In dem JtG Scan sind keinerlei

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<service_type="82"/>

enthalten ...

Waere es moeglich dies ins CVS einzubauen ..?

[jmittelst]

@PT1: Überprüf mal bitte: Dbox-Taste > Service > Kanalsuche > Service-Auswahl. Steht da wirklich "Alle Services"? Oder eher "TV und Radio"?

cu
Jens

[PT-1]

@Jmittels

Du alter Hellseher

Peinlich ;-)

@All,

die Englaender hatten da mal was gebastelt um Kanaele Namen und den richtigen Service Type zu geben...

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+ uint8_t service_type = ST_DIGITAL_TELEVISION_SERVICE;
+ std::string serviceName;
+ std::string providerName = "NVOD";
+
+ if (service_id == 0x0551 || service_id == 0x008d || service_id ==0x0385)
+ serviceName = std::string("Front Row 01");
+ else if (service_id == 0x0552 || service_id == 0x008e || service_id ==0x0386)
+ serviceName = std::string("Front Row 02");
+ else if (service_id == 0x0553 || service_id == 0x008f || service_id ==0x0387)
+ serviceName = std::string("Front Row 03");

Waere das moeglich alles im Service Bereich 80 z.B. in 01 schon gleich beim scannen umzuwandeln ..?

[Nirvana]

So jedenfalls nicht, weil die Services nicht durch das Triple ONID, TSID, SID eindeutig identifiziert sind.

[PT-1]

@Nirvana

MWS hat mir ein Diff gebastelt aber die Regierung blockiert momentan den TV